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I stopped in @ D&D Guns today,& found one of my 'bucket list guns', or as I should call it.a gun from the list of.' Guns I always wanted, but couldn't afford to buy at the time'; the latest being a S&W model 41. I would appreciate anyone who can help me determine the year of manufacture of the latest addition to my collection.
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It has a serial number that begins with 'A130xxS' I believe it is quite rare, as it has a 7' barrel, came with a factory installed (!?) muzzle brake, and has a (I've never seen this before on a model 41) adjustable counterweight that attaches to the frame, just behind/beneath the front sight and extends to the trigger guard.Another weight attaches below this, and is adjustable fore or aft, to counter the muzzle rise.(if the muzzle brake isn't enough?) It came with an extra hand stock, with finger and thumb rests on both sides on the grips, one set of grips considerably larger than the other. I was told the origional owner bought the gun with all the availiable factory options.I'm really glad that included 3 magazines 8-) Thanks in advance for any info you can provide in narrowing down the year of manufacture.Joepistol.:pistols. Smith made a barrel for about 1 year, that was 7 7/8 with a muzzle brake. I'm going from memory so double check.
I believe the year was 1972. Mine which is about the same vintage came as a 2 barrel set with wood grips. The grips have a thumb rest but not as fancy as yours.
The 7' barrel was a option. Norton Serial # Date of Mfg. 104XX 1958 149XX 1959 189XX 1959 295XX 1960 1120XX 1969 114XXX 1969 'A' Prefix 1970 with A115001 A145801 1972 A225XXX 1973 A235001 1974 A265001 1975 A295001 1976 A414XXX 1977'.
Congrats on the purchase Joe, the model 41 has quite a few variations out there. The serial # does indicates a 1970 production gun. The earlier production guns (pre 78') came with the muzzle brake, but they were only on a 7 3/8' barrel, may want to double check the length of yours. The 7 3/8' model specifically came with an internal removable weight that attaches to the brake, and should thread into the bottom of the barrel. The additional weights are probably the adjustable Olympic counterweights that were another option for the gun. Smith also made a.22 short conversion kit available for the gun.
I imagine this would be a pretty rare find, and worth as much as the 41 itself. Again, congrats.
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Once you locate the serial number, then you are able to do some research and find out a little history on your gun. Below you will find some visual examples of where to look for the serial number on your S&W handgun. You can then use the serial number to find out the Smith & Wesson date manufactured for your particular gun. Keep in mind that many Smith and Wesson guns produced before 1957 did not have a serial number stamped on them.
These older guns will take a little more effort to find out their history. For those Smith Wesson with serial numbers, see the pictures below to find where to look. Smith Wesson Serial Numbers - Revolvers Smith Wesson Serial Numbers - Pistols There are some exceptions to the locations shown above for certain S&W pistols. On the Sigma series and the SW99 models, you will find the serial number in the locations shown in the pictures below. Smith Wesson Serial Numbers - Sigma Series Smith Wesson Serial Numbers - SW99 Once you've located the serial number, then you can try to contact Smith and Wesson and see if they can give you an information about your particular gun like date of manufacture or other specific details. You can try to contact their customer support by phone and see if they would be willing to help you that way.
If they are unable (or unwilling) to help over the phone, then you can contact them via writing with information on your S&W pistol, and they will research your particular firearm and send you a written report. You can send them a picture and they can find out more of the background on your gun along with the date manufactured. They will charge you for this service ($50 at the time this was written) and it is probably only worthwhile for older collectible guns which have no serial numbers. If you can find the serial number, then you are better off just trying to call S&W customer service first. If that doesn't work, then you could try to contact a gun shop and see if they can help you. Furthermore, some internet forums are filled with helpful and knowledgeable people that would be happy to help try to interpret the serial number on your handgun. In addition, a book such as: Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson written by Jim Supica, Richard Nahas, published 2007, can be used to try to get more information about your gun.
This book can be very helpful in finding Smith & Wesson date manufactured information and also general historical information about different S&W firearms. In fact, if you post a message on an internet group asking for help in identifying your particular Smith & Wesson gun, then it is very likely that a member of the group will use this book or something similar when they help. Thankfully, most people will probably have a newer gun with the serial numbers, and it should be relatively easy to get more background information using that number. The old guns without the serial numbers are the ones that can be a little trickier.
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Smith & Wesson Model 41 Type Semi Automatic Pistol Place of origin United States Specifications Weight 41 oz Length 10 1⁄ 2' length 5 1⁄ 2' or 7', Feed system 10-round single column, detachable The Smith & Wesson Model 41 is a developed by Smith & Wesson after World War II as a competitive target pistol. It was designed with a 105 degree grip angle, the same as the pistol, to maintain a consistent grip angle. Production history In July 1947 two prototypes, numbered X-41 and X-42 were produced, tested, and improved for the next 10 years.
In 1957 the Model 41 was made available to the public for sale when S&W produced 679 units. At the end of 1958, they had built 9,875 Model 41 pistols. A lighter 5' barrel was offered in 1958 for field use. The Model 41-1 was introduced in 1960 and was chambered in for International Rapid Fire competition. Only 1000 were made using light aluminum slides necessary for function with the lower powered.22 Short. In August 1963, the 5' heavy barrel version came into the market. Stoeger's Shooter's Bible of 1964 shows a 7 3/8' barrel grooved for Olympic center weights.
The cocking indicator and 7 3/8' bbl were dropped in 1978. The 7' bbl was introduced in 1978 with no provision for a. A 6' barrel was offered for a few months in 1991. In 1992 the Model 41 was dropped from production. In 1994 Smith & Wesson returned it to production as the Model 41 (New Model). Model 46 In 1957, Smith & Wesson offered a 'no frills' version of the Model 41 designated the model 46.
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In 1959 it was selected by the for basic training. About 4000 units were made in total: 2500 with a 7-inch barrel, 1000 with 5 inch barrels and 500 5 1/2 inch barrels.
The pistol lacked the checkering, polished blue finish, and other refinements of the Model 41. It proved to be a commercial failure with consumers who preferred the more costly Model 41 and production ceased in 1966, according to firearm historian Sam Fadala. References.
They are probably one of the most popular semi-auto target pistols ever made, along with the old High Standards. These days, though, if you're going to drop a grand then you probably want to look at spending a little more on one of the new High Standard designs and maybe even more on one of the European guns? For just plain accuracy though, the inexpensive Ruger Mk III is generally just as good or better. Almost certainly it is the most rugged.
The Smith magazines change more rapidly in bowling pin shooting and the trigger on the Smith might be better out of the box, but if you get the bull barrel Ruger and maybe get some trigger work done, you will be ahead of the game, IMHO. Also, Ruger has a Government model (was a Mk II when I got mine, and I don't know if it's a Mk III now?) that gives you the same grip angle as the 1911.45, so you don't change grip angles if you are shooting both guns in bullseye competition. Right, but I think you misread what I meant with the model numbers.
The first version of that polymer frame came out added over top of a Mark II underneath it. I was just meaning that I didn't know off the top of my head if the Mark III had now become the platform underneath the polymer? I assumed so, and have since visited Ruger's web site and verified that it is so.
I actually still shoot a Mark I for bullseye matches. The Mark II government model grip frame version is now more the knock-about plinker of the two.
It's trigger just isn't as good as the Mark I's and I haven't got around to correcting it somehow. I got it originally with the idea of making the trigger feel close to my Goldcup's trigger, but I subsequently got a Marvel conversion for that so I use the actual Goldcup trigger. BTW, Jason, that's another way to go. If you've thought of owning a 1911 for target shooting, getting one of those and the Marvel conversion for your.22 is not a bad way to go about it. Unlike other conversions I've tried, the Marvel comes with a fired target that is something like an inch at 50 yards or so.
It is very accurate. I bought the first STAINLESS version of the 41 that was sold in Pueblo CO in the mid 80's.
I already forgot. And here's why. I sold the gun 2 weeks later. It was a decent 22, but at the time I had an old Model 1 High Standard. I also had the HS Supermatic. Tack driver I actually carried this instead of a rifle for Squirrel hunting!
Had good eyes back then tho. AND I had a HS Olympia. Another tack driver. I could just never seem to shoot the Smith right (and 80% of my hand gun purchases are S&W). It says nothing bad about the 41, just about my shooting ability Since then, as usual, I sold ALL the HS's. NOW the tack driver is a Browning Buck Mark in 5' Bull. And I have a 7' barrel that I have never put on the frame.
These were purchased in 1992 and lo and behold, I still have them. 2nd longest of any firearm I've owned. I am actually wearing the Buck Mark now in a holster with a spare 10 shot mag. I am about to go out to the barn and may slide over to my neighbors farm for some small game. Maybe a dangerous beer can will charge me, that's always fun, too. I agree with Marshall, AND your step-dad. I own a model 41, and it's the best shooting handgun I own.
It shoots as well or better than most of the rifles I own. I also have a Buckmark, a MKIII, and 2 MarkII's. They are fun to shoot, and are all quite accurate, but they are not quite in the same league as the 41. Also, don't be afraid to spend $1000 or more on a gun because it's 'just a 22.' Think about what gunyou will use the most and put the most ammo through.
Also what gun will have the most fun with, and put the most meat in the pot with. It will most likely be a 22 for most people.
Why not spend the most money on it too? That's my theory anyway. I have a lot of firearms in my collection, and most of them are rimfires. And, some of my most valueable guns are rimfires. Makes sense to me!
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Good luck in your decision! Even being the Ruger nut that I am, the S&W 41 is an excellent pistol. I don't like them for a couple of reasons, the magazines and expensive and the loading mechanism sucks and not being able to dry fire them.
Those are things you can get over when you see the targets they produce. They are very fast and very reliable, which sure makes up for any shortcomings. A friend has a High Standard that is the same way, it is an excellent pistol. My overwhelming preference is for the Ruger MKIIIs, I own 4 of them now (along with some MKIIs and MKIs) Ruger has built an excellent pistol that I have found to be very reliable and accurate. A little practice and reloads are quick and target acquisition is immediate. The factory triggers are even pretty good, much better than a few of my MKIIs.
Some people have reported troubles with the loaded chamber indicator and magazine safety, I have had no troubles with them on my guns. I really don't think you could go wrong with the M41, MKIII, or High Standard, although I would suggest searching the used market for a M41 or High Standard as the prices should be a lot lower than $1000, Ruger's top end target gun is under $500 and bull barrel target sight MKIII 22/45 start at around $250. Worth the $?? The 41 has not been on my 'to buy' list but many, many shooters swear by them. Let me suggest that you look for a used High Standard - one made in the Hamden, Conn.
Factory and with a military grip. They are durable and extremely accurate pistols. Prices are generally for some hundreds of dollars less than the current production (not the original company.that's a story in itself) The one downside to H-Ss is that an individual gun can be very finicky about magazines. There are good replacement mags available but they are not cheap (and there are a lot of junk mags, too.) I have campaigned both my Ruger Gov't and my H-S Victor is Bullseye matches - I prefer the H-S; I've had two trigger jobs done on the Ruger (Clark and Volquartsen) and neither has matched the H-S factory trigger. I got my Model 41 in the mid ‘80s. It came with a 7” barrel. I decided I didn’t like the 7” barrel and got a 5 ½” barrel.
Both are very accurate, but I didn’t like them. I really wanted the 5” sport barrel, so I had the 7” barrel cut to 5”. Now it is perfect for me. It weighs 35 oz, balances very nicely, shoots beautifully with a great trigger. Only problem is, it is blued. I actually shoot my stainless Ruger MK II and MK IIIs more.
They don’t feel as good in the hand as the 41, but if I damage them, I won’t be too upset. A number of years ago I was shooting.22 target quite a bit. I initially had a Ruger MkI bull barrel, but I never liked the grip angle and the accuracy wasn't as good as I expected (I found that out when I picked up a friend's Ruger Single Six and outshot my scores with the MkI). I then picked up a High Standard Victor.
Beautiful gun, excellent grip, and it well out-shot the Ruger. I found a few quirks I didn't like - it was a bit difficult to grip the slide to retract it, and the magazine only held 9 rounds, but it was excellent otherwise. I never tried a Model 41, but I'm sure they're great. Now I have a S&W 617 revolver, 8 3/8 barrrel, 10-shot that outshoots the autos I had. Another possibility if you don't have your heart set on an autoloader. I have a Custom Ruger Mark II Target that is super accurate and fun to shoot.
I also have two model 41's and they are great pistols and they are accurate but a little finicky on ammo choices. My most accurate 22 pistol is a Model 17-4 with 8 3/8 inch barrel and it's plain scary accurate. I have a K22 with 6 inch barrel that is the least accurate of the group but still quite acceptible in that area and I shoot the crap out of it because I like the balance, trigger, and feel of the gun the best.
The K22 goes to the range everytime I go and I put more rounds trough it then any other handgun I own. The original poster asked if a Model 41 was worth the $1000.00+. Many opinions were shared as well. I hear people say you can do a trigger job on a Ruger MKII or MKIII and it will shoot like a 41.
I have 2 MKII bull barreled versions and three MKIII 22/45 pistols with trigger jobs and a Tactical Solutions barrel on one of those. I have two Model 41s and a third PC 41 on the way. I also have a Hammerli Xesse with a six inch barrel. I have several model 17 S&W.22 revolvers and a newly acquired 617 with a 4 inch barrel. None of those shoot as well as the model 41 pistols.
If it is about the money just buy what you think you can afford. If accuracy is the objective you would be better served with the Smith & Wesson model 41 even though they are finicky about the ammo you put through them.
By the time you tune up a Ruger you will have close to the cost of a 41 anyway. I am a Ruger fan too by the way. I have a total of 18 Ruger firearms and only 12 S&W. I've owned quite a few 22LR semi-auto handguns. Last year I sold both of my High Standard Victors. I even had accessory barrel weights for both of them. They were very good shooters & helped me score quite well in my club's weekly bulls eye competition.
However, they were a pain to take down, clean & reassemble. (The owner's manual suggested hitting them with a rubber mallet.) They were quite fussy as to choice of ammo and they experienced occasional FTF & FTE problems. When that happened during a match it was frustrating All things considered, I much prefer the S&W 41 to any other 22LR semi-auto handgun. Yes, they are costly. I bought one on Gun Broker a couple of years ago for $950 and last year I bought a brand new one made in the S&W Performance Center for $1,200. S&W told me that if I order another one, there will be a 2-3 year wait to get it.
They are tack drivers out of the box. No mods or upgrades necessary. Nearly 100% problem free, even with cheap bulk ammo. (I usually shoot CCI standard velocity, which is what S&W recommends. I run a bore snake through them after each use, but experience has taught me not to bother with any additional cleaning until I fire about 500 rounds. That's my story!
Today I purchased a used S&W Model 41, SN 47364 (not an 'A' prefix gun), and I'm trying to determine the date of manufacture. I called S&W customer service and they stated that they did not have records going back that far, and only repeated the same vague information of a serial number range produced from 1962 to 1969. This same date range/ serial number block is repeated across numerous forums and adds nothing to the information as it's repeated. Is there a definitive on line resource that can provide a list of serial number manufacture dates for pre 'A' prefix Model 41s?
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